Clarifies the open fork from §4/§9: Development A (sandbox launcher) and CB-308 (per-host federation) COMPOSE — each host runs a bridged gateway whose launcher spawns agents into that host's LOCAL sandboxes; the broker moves messages + presence, never keystrokes. The forcing fact: delivery is herdr keystroke-injection into a locally-owned PTY, so "a sandboxed agent on another host" ≡ "a sandbox spawned by that host's gateway" (a remote container with no local herdr can't be injected into). Rules out a central daemon reaching remote PTYs. Adds Figure 11 (composed topology) + Figure 12 (remote-delegation sequence: the local?inject:publish fork with a sandboxed far side — both injection points stay local, only the middle hop crosses the broker), the two forced reachability changes (host-routable mcpUrl; PTY in the local gateway's herdr), and a maps-to-existing-seams table (CB-308 gateway × Dev-A launcher, CB-117 reap, CB-303 container lifecycle, CB-308 #5 trust). No new pillars. Both diagrams mmdc-validated; §4/§9 updated to point at §11.
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CB-500 — Multi-Tier Coordination (Stage 6)
Status: design note (proposal — ticket split deferred)
Depends on: CB-401/402 (Peer Launcher SPI + composite router — placement-neutral spawn),
CB-308 (per-agent broker channels + global id + federated roster — the addressing substrate),
CB-307 (durable inbox + push loop), CB-301/303 (session FSM + context-cap/idle-ttl), CB-304
(rosterView).
Relates to: the bus-identity boundary — see §7. This note stays a proposal; no code until the
staging in §6 is reviewed and the arc is split into tickets.
1. Goal
Grow claude-bridge from a single-tier coordinator (one human-driven primary → a flat pool of
workers) into a multi-tier one, along three axes the lead has asked for:
- Sandboxed workers — each worker runs in a separated, peer-owned sandbox carrying its own
toolchain (Claude routed via
ANTHROPIC_BASE_URL, a headless IDE, git, MCP, dev-tools), with per-role sandboxes (a backend-agent image, a frontend-agent image). - Main-agent pairs — the "main" tier becomes a pair (on-subscription Opus + one cloud module) collaborating, instead of a lone primary.
- An orchestrator tier — a supervisor above the mains that owns their session identity (naming, resume) and curates context, so every main→worker delegation carries the exact slice of context it needs and nothing else.
The through-line: this is not a new pillar. It is the existing PeerLauncher and
SessionManager patterns extended one tier up, riding the same CB-308 substrate that multi-host
already needs. Sandbox = a placement-neutral spawn target (CB-402 pattern). Pair + orchestrator =
per-agent channels + a recursive session manager (CB-308 pattern). The bus stays a
provider-neutral communication fabric; every addition is addressing, launch, or session scoping —
never toolchain ownership (§7).
2. Single-tier today (the assumptions to break)
flowchart TB
human["human (types)"]
primary["PRIMARY (Opus)<br/>MCP client — pull-only"]
daemon["bridged daemon<br/>127.0.0.1:8765 (single host)"]
comp["CompositePeerLauncher<br/>routes by kind"]
cc["ClaudeCodeLauncher"]
oc["OpenCodeLauncher"]
w1["worker pane (gx00 vLLM)"]
w2["worker pane (ollama)"]
human --> primary
primary -->|"bridge_send / spawn / ask"| daemon
daemon --> comp
comp --> cc
comp --> oc
cc --> w1
oc --> w2
Figure 1 — one human-driven primary, one daemon, a flat pool of bare herdr-pane workers.
Four concrete bake-ins assume a single tier:
| Assumption | Where (verified) | Why it blocks the direction |
|---|---|---|
| Exactly one primary | mcp/PrimaryRegistry — an AtomicReference<String>, "single-slot registry for the primary's terminal" |
A pair needs N addressable mains, each with its own pull inbox. |
| Workers are bare panes | worker/*Launcher spawn a herdr pane via argv:["ccs", …] into a pre-existing env |
A sandbox is a richer launch target (container/devcontainer) — a new placement, not a new provider. |
SpawnRequest is flat |
peer/SpawnRequest(profileName, requestedCwd, callerCwd) |
A sandbox/role selection needs a spawn-target dimension the record does not carry. |
| No tier above the primary | there is no manager of the primary's own session — SessionManager manages workers only |
An orchestrator that names/resumes/scopes the mains is a wholly new (but pattern-reusable) tier. |
3. Target multi-tier architecture
flowchart TB
human["human"]
subgraph orch["TIER 0 — orchestrator"]
osm["OrchestratorSessionManager<br/>(SessionManager, recursed up)<br/>names · resumes · scopes context"]
end
subgraph mains["TIER 1 — main pair"]
m1["main A: Opus<br/>MCP client"]
m2["main B: cloud module<br/>MCP client"]
end
subgraph bus["bridged fabric (CB-307/308 substrate)"]
chan["per-agent inbox channels<br/>agent.<globalId>.inbox"]
roster["federated roster (union view)"]
end
subgraph workers["TIER 2 — sandboxed workers"]
sbBE["backend sandbox<br/>Claude via ANTHROPIC_BASE_URL<br/>+ headless IDE · git · MCP · dev-tools"]
sbFE["frontend sandbox<br/>(role-specific image)"]
end
human --> osm
osm -->|"spawn / name / resume"| m1
osm -->|"spawn / name / resume"| m2
m1 <-->|"pull inbox"| chan
m2 <-->|"pull inbox"| chan
m1 -->|"scoped delegation"| bus
m2 -->|"scoped delegation"| bus
bus --> sbBE
bus --> sbFE
chan --- roster
Figure 2 — three tiers. Tier 0 owns the mains' session identity + context scope; Tier 1 is a collaborating pair, each an MCP client with its own pull inbox; Tier 2 is peer-owned sandboxes the bus launches into. The middle is CB-308's per-agent-channel + federated-roster substrate, now carrying tier-to-tier traffic, not just host-to-host.
The recursion is the key idea: orchestrator : mains :: main : workers — the same
spawn/name/resume/scope verbs at two levels.
4. Development A — Sandboxed, role-specific workers
A "sandbox" is a placement, not a provider — so it slots into the CB-401 SPI exactly the way
CB-402's opencode adapter slotted in as a new provider. CB-402 proved the SPI is
provider-neutral; a SandboxLauncher proves it is placement-neutral.
flowchart TB
req["SpawnRequest<br/>(profileName, cwd, + sandbox/role)"]
comp["CompositePeerLauncher<br/>routes by kind"]
cc["ClaudeCodeLauncher<br/>kind: claude-code"]
oc["OpenCodeLauncher<br/>kind: opencode"]
sb["SandboxLauncher (NEW)<br/>kind: sandbox"]
subgraph owned["bridge OWNS (launch + inject boundary)"]
launch["run sandbox entrypoint<br/>(docker/devcontainer up → agent)"]
inject["inject + guard baseUrl,<br/>mount bridge MCP + charter"]
end
subgraph peer["peer OWNS (inside the sandbox)"]
img["image = backend|frontend role<br/>headless IDE · git · dev-tools · MCP"]
end
req --> comp
comp --> cc
comp --> oc
comp --> sb
sb --> launch --> inject
inject -.->|"launches into, never builds"| img
classDef line fill:#b7791f,stroke:#7b341e,color:#ffffff;
class inject line
Figure 3 — the ownership line (amber). The bridge runs the sandbox entrypoint and injects the same
boundary it owns today (guarded baseUrl, mounted MCP + reply charter). Everything inside the image
— the IDE, git, dev-tools — is the peer's. The bridge references the image/role; it never provisions
tools. This is what keeps "give the worker a headless IDE" on the right side of the "bus, not
env-manager" rule (§7).
sequenceDiagram
participant M as main (delegator)
participant D as bridged
participant SL as SandboxLauncher
participant SB as sandbox (peer-owned)
participant A as agent in sandbox
M->>D: bridge_spawn(profile=backend, role=backend)
D->>SL: spawn(SpawnRequest)
SL->>SB: start entrypoint (image = backend role)
Note over SL,SB: bridge injects guarded ANTHROPIC_BASE_URL,<br/>mounts bridge MCP url + reply charter
SB->>A: launch Claude (headless IDE, git, MCP ready — peer's own)
A-->>SL: MCP connects → readiness gate (CB-306) passes
SL-->>D: PeerHandle(globalId)
D-->>M: spawned, injectable
Figure 4 — spawn into a peer-owned sandbox. Identical control flow to today's pane spawn (incl. the
CB-306 readiness gate); only the launcher's buildLaunch differs — exactly the CB-402 seam.
Deltas: a new kind: sandbox adapter (extends the same HerdrPeerLauncher/PeerLauncher base);
a spawn-target/role dimension on SpawnRequest and the Worker profile; optionally a SANDBOX
Capability. Per-role = two profiles → two images; CompositePeerLauncher already routes them. If a
sandbox is a separate host/container, it reuses CB-308's global id + per-host gateway wholesale —
the distributed case is resolved in §11: a sandbox on another host is one spawned by that host's
gateway, because herdr keystroke-injection needs a locally-owned PTY.
5. Development B — Main-agent pairs
Both mains are MCP clients, so neither can be called into — each needs a pull-based
per-agent inbox, which is precisely CB-308 item #1 (per-agent AMQP channels). The primary machinery
that is singular today (single-slot PrimaryRegistry, a push-loop aimed at one terminal, "these
tools only the primary calls") generalizes from a singleton to a set.
flowchart TB
subgraph pair["TIER 1 — collaborating pair"]
m1["main A: Opus<br/>MCP client (pull-only)"]
m2["main B: cloud module<br/>MCP client (pull-only)"]
end
reg["PrimaryRegistry → multi-slot<br/>(terminal per main)"]
subgraph fabric["bridged"]
ca["agent.A.inbox"]
cb["agent.B.inbox"]
push["ReplyPushLoop → N terminals"]
end
m1 <-->|"peer-to-peer message"| m2
m1 -->|"register terminal"| reg
m2 -->|"register terminal"| reg
ca -->|"pull / nudge"| m1
cb -->|"pull / nudge"| m2
reg --> push
push --> ca
push --> cb
Figure 5 — the pair. Each main owns an addressable inbox; PrimaryRegistry becomes multi-slot; the
push loop nudges each main's terminal. Mains message each other as equals over the same bus (the
transport is already peer-neutral — what was missing is N pull endpoints).
sequenceDiagram
participant MA as main A (Opus)
participant BR as bridged / broker
participant MB as main B (cloud)
MA->>BR: bridge_send(to = main B, msg)
BR->>BR: publish agent.B.inbox (durable, msg id)
Note over BR: held until B pulls (B is a client too)
MB->>BR: blocking bridge_send / poll resolves
BR-->>MB: msg (then ACK)
MB->>BR: bridge_reply(to = main A)
BR->>BR: publish agent.A.inbox
MA->>BR: poll resolves
BR-->>MA: reply
Figure 6 — main↔main is the CB-307 asymmetry applied on both ends: two clients, so both hops are pull. This is why Part B depends on the per-agent-channel substrate, not just a config flag.
Deltas: PrimaryRegistry single-slot → keyed-by-main; per-main inbox routing (CB-308 #1);
push-loop fan-out; relax "orchestration tools only the primary calls" to "any registered main."
6. Development C — Orchestrator tier
The orchestrator is SessionManager recursed one tier up: today it spawns/names/reaps worker
sessions; the orchestrator does the same for main sessions, and adds context scoping.
flowchart TB
human["human"]
subgraph t0["TIER 0 — orchestrator (new top MCP client)"]
osm["OrchestratorSessionManager<br/>= SessionManager pattern"]
idm["session identity<br/>name · resume · idle-ttl (CB-303)"]
ctx["context scoper<br/>(CB-303 context-cap + turn_id)"]
end
subgraph t1["TIER 1 — mains (now MANAGED sessions)"]
m1["main A"]
m2["main B"]
end
subgraph t2["TIER 2 — workers"]
w["sandboxed workers"]
end
human --> osm
osm --> idm
osm --> ctx
idm -->|"spawn / name / resume"| m1
idm -->|"spawn / name / resume"| m2
ctx -->|"inject exact context slice"| m1
m1 -->|"scoped delegation"| w
m2 -->|"scoped delegation"| w
Figure 7 — the recursion. Tiers 1 and 2 run the identical spawn/name/resume machinery; the orchestrator merely operates it one level higher. Re-rooting caveat: today the primary IS the human's live session; here the human drives the orchestrator, and the mains become managed, resumable sessions. That moves the human-facing top up a tier — an intentional re-root, not an add-on.
sequenceDiagram
participant H as human
participant O as orchestrator
participant MA as main A
participant W as worker
H->>O: high-level goal (large context)
O->>O: name/resume main A session
O->>MA: task + SCOPED context slice (not the whole history)
MA->>W: bridge_send(delegation, carrying only the relevant slice)
W-->>MA: result
MA-->>O: rollup
O->>O: fold into orchestrator context, pick next main/turn
Figure 8 — context focus. The orchestrator holds the global context and hands each main only the slice a given delegation needs, so the main→worker conversation stays on-point. Context scoping is coordination (the bus already owns session/turn lifecycle) — it stays inside the identity boundary (§7), unlike toolchain ownership which does not.
Deltas: a second, higher SessionManager instance whose "peers" are mains; the orchestrator
becomes the top MCP client; context-slice selection (new) layered on CB-303's context_cap +
turn_id scoping; mains gain a resumable session id in the federated roster.
7. The identity boundary — the one clause to hold
The bus is a communication fabric, not an env/toolchain manager. This direction is compatible only with the ownership split below; the amber line in Figure 3 is where it must hold.
flowchart LR
subgraph ok["STAYS A BUS (owned)"]
a["launch INTO a sandbox<br/>(opaque image/role reference)"]
b["inject + guard baseUrl,<br/>mount MCP + charter"]
c["session identity + context scope<br/>(name/resume/turn_id)"]
d["per-agent addressing + roster"]
end
subgraph drift["BECOMES ENV-MANAGER (forbidden)"]
e["build images / install IDE<br/>or dev-tools"]
f["wire the bridge's OWN IDE MCP<br/>into a worker"]
g["enumerate 'what a frontend<br/>agent needs'"]
end
ok -.->|"red flag: any feature that only<br/>makes sense for ONE kind of peer"| drift
classDef bad fill:#9b2c2c,stroke:#742a2a,color:#ffffff;
class e,f,g bad
Figure 9 — the guardrail. A worker having a headless IDE inside its own sandbox is the peer
owning its toolchain (left) — the opposite of the bridge reaching into the peer (right). Sandbox
specs are peer-owned references (like argv/image id); the instant the bridge builds or installs
them, it has drifted. This resolves the apparent contradiction between "do NOT give workers IDE MCP
access" and "give workers a sandboxed IDE" — different owners.
8. Staging & dependencies
flowchart LR
cb402["CB-401/402<br/>Peer Launcher SPI + composite<br/>(DONE / in-flight)"]
A["A · SandboxLauncher<br/>(placement-neutral, independent)"]
cb308["CB-308 substrate<br/>per-agent channels + global id<br/>+ federated roster"]
B["B · main-agent pair<br/>(multi-slot PrimaryRegistry)"]
C["C · orchestrator tier<br/>(SessionManager recursed up)"]
cb402 --> A
cb402 --> cb308
cb308 --> B
cb308 --> C
B --> C
A -.->|"if sandbox = separate host/container,<br/>reuses CB-308 global id"| cb308
classDef gate fill:#b7791f,stroke:#7b341e,color:#ffffff;
class cb308 gate
Figure 10 — the substrate (amber) is the shared enabler for B and C. Recommended order:
- Finish CB-402 (merge the opencode adapter branch).
- A · SandboxLauncher — independent; a second proof of the SPI (placement-neutral). Ships anytime.
- CB-308 substrate — per-agent channels + global id + federated roster (the multi-host work, promoted from host-to-host to tier-to-tier).
- B · main-agent pair — multi-slot
PrimaryRegistry+ per-main inbox routing, on the substrate. - C · orchestrator tier — the capstone; the recursive session manager + context scoping.
9. Open questions (to resolve at ticket-split)
- Sandbox mechanism: container (
docker exec) vs devcontainer — how the role→image mapping is expressed on the profile. (Topology resolved in §11: distributed = gateway-per-host × local sandboxes; the remaining choice is only the local launch mechanism, not the shape.) - Pair semantics: are the two mains fully symmetric peers, or is one a co-primary that may also
delegate? Affects how
PrimaryRegistryand the "orchestration tools" identity relax. - Orchestrator drivenness: the mains become programmatically spawned/resumed — does the human still ever type directly into a main, or only into the orchestrator? (The re-root caveat, Fig 7.)
- Context-slice selection: who decides the slice — orchestrator heuristics, explicit tool args, or the main pulling on demand? This is the genuinely new responsibility; keep it scoping, not content authorship, to stay inside the boundary.
- Trust: every new tier boundary that accepts spawn/send is a trust edge (the CB-308 item #5 / CB-401 Stage-C concern) — orchestrator→main and main→sandbox both need authz.
10. Ticket-split guidance (deferred)
This note is deliberately one arc; when split, the natural tickets are A (SandboxLauncher + role/spawn-target), the CB-308 substrate (likely already its own ticket), B (multi-primary pair), and C (orchestrator tier + context scoping) — with the identity clause (§7) as an acceptance criterion on A specifically. Sequence per §8; nothing here is a new pillar, so each ticket is an extension of an existing pattern (CB-402 for A, CB-308 for B/C).
11. Distributed sandboxes — the resolved topology
The follow-up question — "clarify the architecture when we have distributed agents in sandboxes" —
resolves the fork left open in §4 and §9. Decision: Development A (sandbox launcher) and CB-308
(per-host federation) compose, not compete — each host runs a bridged gateway whose launcher
spawns agents into that host's local sandboxes. A sandbox is never reached across the network; it
is reached by the gateway sitting next to it.
11.1 The one fact that fixes the shape
The bus delivers a turn by herdr keystroke-injection — Injector → AgentControl.send writes into
a PTY that its local herdr owns. The broker moves messages and presence, never keystrokes.
So an agent's PTY must live in a herdr that some bridged instance drives locally: a remote
container with no local herdr cannot be injected into. That rules out a central daemon reaching
remote PTYs, and collapses the design to a single identity:
"a sandboxed agent on another host" ≡ "a sandbox spawned by that host's gateway."
flowchart TB
subgraph hostA["HOST A — gateway"]
mA["main / orchestrator<br/>MCP client → LOCAL gateway"]
gA["bridged A<br/>herdr + CompositePeerLauncher<br/>(incl. SandboxLauncher)"]
cBEa["sandbox: backend<br/>(local container)"]
cFEa["sandbox: frontend<br/>(local container)"]
mA --- gA
gA -->|"spawn (docker/devcontainer)<br/>→ PTY in A's herdr"| cBEa
gA --> cFEa
end
subgraph broker["BROKER (AMQP) — CB-307/308 fabric"]
inbox["agent.ID.inbox queues"]
roster["roster.* (federated presence)"]
end
subgraph hostB["HOST B — gateway"]
gB["bridged B<br/>herdr + SandboxLauncher"]
cBEb["sandbox: backend<br/>(local container)"]
gB -->|"spawn → PTY in B's herdr"| cBEb
end
gA <-->|"messages + presence<br/>(NOT keystrokes)"| inbox
gB <-->|"messages + presence"| inbox
gA --- roster
gB --- roster
classDef line fill:#2b6cb0,stroke:#1a365d,color:#ffffff;
class inbox,roster line
Figure 11 — the composed topology. Each gateway owns its local herdr and runs a SandboxLauncher
(the §4 adapter) that spawns role-specific containers on its own host; the broker (blue) carries
only messages + roster between gateways. Keystroke-injection stays strictly local to each gateway.
11.2 How a delegation reaches a sandboxed agent on another host
sequenceDiagram
participant MA as main (host A)
participant GA as gateway A
participant BR as broker
participant GB as gateway B
participant SB as sandbox agent (host B, container)
MA->>GA: bridge_send(globalId on B, msg)
GA->>GA: directory lookup - is globalId local? NO
GA->>BR: publish agent.ID.inbox (durable)
BR->>GB: route to the owning gateway
GB->>SB: inject via B's LOCAL herdr (keystrokes)
Note over GB,SB: SandboxLauncher already spawned the container -<br/>its PTY is in B's herdr, CB-306 readiness passed
SB-->>GB: bridge_reply (to B's LOCAL MCP endpoint)
GB->>BR: publish primary-bound (durable, msg id)
BR->>GA: route back to A
Note over GA: held until the main pulls (the main is a client)
MA->>GA: poll / blocking send resolves
GA-->>MA: reply
Figure 12 — the local ? inject : publish fork (CB-308 §3.2) with a sandboxed far side. Only the
middle hop crosses the network via the broker; both injection points (into the sandbox on B,
and the drain-nudge back into the main on A) are local herdr writes. This is CB-308's routing rule
unchanged — the sandbox is transparent to it.
11.3 Two reachability changes any sandbox forces
| Change | Today | Under sandboxes |
|---|---|---|
mcpUrl |
http://127.0.0.1:8765/mcp (loopback) |
must be host-routable from inside the container (e.g. host.docker.internal or the gateway's LAN IP) — the worker connects to its own gateway's MCP, never a remote one. |
| PTY ownership | pane in the daemon's herdr | pane is the container's attached PTY, in the local gateway's herdr (via docker exec/devcontainer) — non-negotiable per §11.1. |
11.4 Everything maps to an existing seam (nothing new invented)
| Concern | Provided by |
|---|---|
| Per-host gateway (owns local herdr + sessions) | CB-308 (today's bridged, evolved) |
| Spawn into a local sandbox / role→image | Development A SandboxLauncher (§4), routed by CompositePeerLauncher |
| Addressing a remote sandboxed agent | CB-308 global id + federated roster (host + role as metadata) |
| Orphan reap after a gateway restart | CB-117 per-gateway, summed by the composite — each reaps only its local herdr |
| Container up/down | tied to CB-303 session lifecycle — SandboxLauncher.stop tears the container down with the pane |
| Cross-gateway spawn/send trust | CB-308 item #5 / CB-401 Stage-C — each gateway edge is a trust boundary |
The net: distributed sandboxes add zero new pillars — they are CB-308 gateway × Development-A launcher at every host, with the §7 ownership line (peer owns the image; the bridge only launches
into it) holding at each gateway.