Two startup refusals give a reason that #669 Unit D made false: the roster is consulted before every tab map, so a live member is no longer read back as a lead #711
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The claim, and why it is now false
Two
FleetConfigvalidators refuse to start and both give the same reason: a member landing in alead's or collaborator's labelled tab would be read back as that identity and granted its
authority.
FleetConfig.java:2874-2914—validatePanePlacementAgainstLeadTabs, javadoc at:2880andthe throw message at
:2911.FleetConfig.java:2776-2781— thetabLabel/tabPrefixcollision refusal, throw message at:2779.#669 Unit D changed that.
CallerResolvernow consults the spawned-member roster first, ahead ofevery tab map, and says so in its own comment (
CallerResolver.java:294-299):So for a live, registered member the stated consequence cannot happen. The member resolves as
itself.
The refusals are still right — for a different reason
Do not delete either check. A member pane is only protected while it is in the roster, and there
are windows where it is not:
release()removes the registry entry, then shells out togitbefore stopping thepane. In that window the pane is alive and unregistered.
FleetMcp.java:1303names this case: "a worker theregistry has no record of — one that outlived a daemon restart".
In either window the tab map is the only thing left, and a member pane sitting in a lead's
labelled tab is read back as that lead. That is the hazard the refusal still prevents, and it is
a narrower and more precise claim than the one written today.
Scope
Re-key the reason in both validators, and in everything that repeats it. The same sentence is
written in 7 places:
fleetd/src/main/java/dev/ltms/fleet/config/FleetConfig.javafleetd/src/test/java/dev/ltms/fleet/config/FleetConfigTest.javawiki/11-Features.mdThe wiki is a submodule and is the lead's to push — it is listed so the count is honest, not as
part of the code change.
Not measured
Nobody has driven a live member pane into a lead tab during either window. The reachability
argument above is read from the source:
CallerResolver.java:294-299for the precedence,SessionManager.release()for the teardown window,FleetMcp.java:1303for the restart case.Done and verified in
main— closingLanded as PR #714, implementation commit
7d497aa, mergec468953. I confirmedc468953is anancestor of
origin/mainand then read the text out ofmainitself rather than out of the PR:Both refusals now state the condition that is still real — the pane is alive and carries no
entry in the spawned-member roster — instead of the one #669 Unit D made false.
One correction to PR #714's own description, repeated here because it is the lasting record
The PR description claimed a spawn-time window where a pane is alive but not yet registered.
That window does not exist.
idleprecedes the MCP connect, so registration follows withinmicroseconds. I corrected this on the PR. The two windows that are real:
release()removes the roster entry, then shells out to git before stopping thepane, so the resolver goes blind while the pane is still alive. Still open.
while the panes survive.
That second one is why #705 option 1 (the
OBSERVERfloor) must ship in the same commit asthe presence split: a floor alone would make a restart-surviving pane permanently undeliverable.
Tracked on #705, not here.