A worker's report is stranded when its fleet_ask timed out, and the lead is told the worker never replied #307
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Merged and green, but never shown working on the running daemon. Not the same as done.
Scope, files and acceptance criteria are written. A worker can be briefed from the body alone.
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Found by a delegated hunter. I verified every line of this myself, and the asymmetry is sharper than the report put it.
The two timeouts, and only one is covered
reply()has a recovery path for a reply that arrives with no live rendezvous waiter:and the filter behind it requires a live
turnId:Now compare what the two timeout paths do to
turnId:turnIdafteranswer()— the lead answered, its own bounded wait for the onward reply expiredclearAsyncQuestion(turnId, false)ask()— the lead never answered at allclearAsyncQuestion(ticket.turnId(), true)forgetTurn=truenullstask.turnIdand drops the task fromasyncTasksByTurn, so the task can never again match the filter. The worker's laterfleet_replyfalls through toinbox.publish.The comment above the recovery path names only the first case ("answer()'s own bounded wait … can time out"). The sibling was never considered.
Why this matters more than it looks
The report is not destroyed — it reaches the inbox,
strandedRepliesis set, and the push loop is nudged. State that plainly.What breaks is what the lead is told.
fleet_poll{ticket}keeps sayingPENDINGafter the worker has replied, and the ticket is eventually forcedFAILEDbyabandon()with the reason "session released before it replied". That reason is false. The lead is not merely left uninformed; it is told the opposite of what happened, and this project already has a standing note that a lead must not believe "the member did nothing" without checking the worktree.Reachability — this is the common case here, not an edge
An unanswered
fleet_askis routine on this fleet. The ask window is about 55 seconds and is invisible tofleet_poll, which is exactly why the charter says "never brief a worker to ask me — decide before you delegate, or give it an explicit default." When a worker asks anyway and the lead is mid-turn elsewhere, the ask times out, the worker follows the timeout instruction, resumes, finishes, and ends its turn withfleet_reply. That is the ordinary path, and it lands in the broken half of the table above.So of everything found in this batch, this is the one most likely to have already happened.
The obvious fix is wrong — do not take it
The tempting change is to pass
forgetTurn=falseon the ask timeout so theturnIdsurvives and the filter matches. That breaks a different thing, and I checked it before writing this:hasAsyncQuestionis what keeps a target BUSY and refuses to open a new waiter on it. Leaving theturnIdstamped after a timed-out ask would keep the worker BUSY indefinitely, so every laterfleet_sendto it would be refused.forgetTurn=trueon timeout is deliberate and correct. Leave it alone.What I want
Goal: after an
ask()timeout, a worker's genuinefleet_replymust complete its own async ticket, sofleet_poll{ticket}returns the real report instead ofPENDINGand then a falseFAILED.Invariants that must survive:
fleet_sendto it must still be accepted.reply()before you touch the filter; it explains why that branch is defence in depth and not dead code.The obvious candidate mechanism — and it is a candidate, not an instruction: mark the Task when its ask times out ("asked, timed out, still awaiting the worker's real reply") and let
askAnsweredAsyncTasksaccept that marker in place of a liveturnId. That keeps the task out ofasyncTasksByTurn, so invariant 1 holds, while still distinguishing it from an async task that never asked at all.Decide it yourself and justify it in your report. If you find a better place or a reason the marker is wrong, say so and do that instead — a reported and tested deviation is a good outcome here, not a problem. What I do not want is the mechanism above implemented without thought because I named it.
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wait:falsesend, afleet_askthat is never answered and times out, then afleet_reply— andfleet_poll{ticket}must return the reply, notPENDING.git stash— the stash is shared with other worktrees and you will take someone else's work.cd fleetd && mvn clean installunpiped and quote the realTests run:andBUILDlines. Never pipe maven throughtailorhead, and never read$?after a pipe — it is the pipe's last command's status, not Maven's. I shipped a "green" run earlier today that had not compiled, for exactly that reason.Shape check
When done, look for the same shape elsewhere in
MessageService.javaonly: a cleanup that runs on one timeout path but not its sibling. One line each, do not fix any of it.Merged to
maininb9c2cf6. This is the one in the batch I judged most likely to have already cost us real work.What I checked myself
The worker did not use the candidate mechanism blindly. It added a second, independent field
Task.askTimedOutand leftclearAsyncQuestion(turnId, true)alone, so the BUSY release is untouched. That is the right call: looseningforgetTurnwould have changed the sharedNO_WAITERcall site too.I ran two mutations, both different from the worker's whole-file revert.
D — the ordering. The fix depends on
markAskTimedOutrunning beforeclearAsyncQuestionerases theturnIdit looks up. I swapped the two lines and changed nothing else:The ordering is load-bearing and pinned at both layers.
E — the ambiguity branch. This is the part I cared about most, because the fix creates the reachable two-candidate state. I made
reply()guess (candidates.size() == 1→!candidates.isEmpty()):So the new test really does exercise the branch, and the safe fallback is pinned.
The finding beyond the ticket is the valuable half
askAnsweredAsyncTasks' javadoc said its ambiguity branch was unreachable — "returns at most one entry today — verified, not assumed" — and that the ambiguity handling was defence in depth. This fix makes it reachable, exactly as the worker argued: a lapsed ask frees the target, a fresh independentsendAsynccan land on it, ask, and lapse too, leaving two open tasks on one target.The worker rewrote both javadoc blocks to say so and added a test for the state. I confirmed the reasoning by reading the code and by mutation E above. A stale "verified, not assumed" comment is worse than no comment — it is the thing that stops the next reader from checking.
Trade recorded plainly: the fix converts "one stranded ticket, force-failed later with a false 'session released before it replied'" into "the ticket completes; or, in the two-open-tasks case, the reply lands in the inbox and
abandonresolves it deterministically". The second case is not perfect, but it never completes the wrong ticket, which was the only outcome worth avoiding at any cost.Shape check the worker reported
answer()'sTimeoutExceptioncatch does not callclearAsyncQuestionthe way its success path does. The worker checked it and found it correct —clearAsyncQuestion(turnId, false)already ran earlier inanswer(), soturnIdstays live on purpose. Reported rather than assumed. Right outcome.Build
cd fleetd && mvn clean install, unpiped:Tests run: 1323, Failures: 0, Errors: 0, Skipped: 0,BUILD SUCCESS.Nothing in my ticket was wrong this time
The worker read
reply(),askAnsweredAsyncTasks,ask(),answer(),hasAsyncQuestionandabandon()in full and said the ticket's table, trap and three invariants all matched the code. First ticket in this batch where that was true.